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RBshorty 6:57 Wed Mar 8
Mings gets 5. Zlatan only 3.!

Big team bias rules again. FA couldn't get more bent if they had Norton or Carr running the show.

C***S.!

Dolittle 3:07 Fri Mar 10
Re: Mings gets 5. Zlatan only 3.!

Having watched it a few times I'd say Zlatan not only elbowed Mings deliberately but also attempted to stamp on him after he tackles Rooney and then dives to the ground looking for a free kick. Mings attempts to hurdle Zlatan but his back leg is impeded by Rooney preventing Mings from clearing the obstacle (the Swedes swede).

Not guilty

Russ of the BML 10:21 Fri Mar 10
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Sven Roeder 8:51 Thu Mar 9

With respect mate it happened in a blink of an eye. It's ok watching it over and over and over in super slow-mo but at the end of the day he's scrambling to get back to cut out the cross. He's got more important things to worry about than avoiding someone on the deck.

If he made a split decision to not deviate and to initiate the stamp then only Mings knows that and you, me nor anyone else have any evidence it was deliberate because he said he didn't mean it.

The footage cannot be used to substantiate intent. In fact, the more I watch it the more I think he never meant it.

Russ of the BML 10:14 Fri Mar 10
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Sorry, last post was a balls up....

Unless he SAID he did it deliberately then nobody can say it was intentional. Nobody can read minds.

Russ of the BML 10:13 Fri Mar 10
Re: Mings gets 5. Zlatan only 3.!

Unless he did it deliberately then nobody can say he did it intentionally.

goose 9:59 Thu Mar 9
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I wouldn't say Mings lying about it is him showing remorse.

Sven Roeder 8:51 Thu Mar 9
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The natural reaction when you hurdle a player after looking down and seeing he is underneath you (as Mings did) is to make an exaggerated move to avoid them.
My take was that he looked , saw the head and didn't break his stride or attempt to.
It was a deliberate act of making contact
Guilty your honour

The Mings will be taken from this court and hanged by the neck until dead.

The Joker 8:35 Thu Mar 9
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As Sold said, I've played football for over thirty years and never stamped or seen someone stamp on someone's head. It's as rare as rocking horse shit despite me seeing a thousand fat blokes falling and tumbling over their lardy arses over the Marshes. In fact it's only the Dicks one I can remember ever seeing anywhere else.

It was absolutely intentional, but Mings couldn't say that otherwise he would have been looking at a huge ban.

I suppose you could take Ibrahmovic's comments as an admission, but I heard it more like "he was out of order, I was out of order but it's just in the game" - quite refreshing really.

Russ of the BML 5:34 Thu Mar 9
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Robson 4:12 Thu Mar 9

I'd say that's pretty much spot on.

I just absolutely fail to see how anybody can categorically say Mings meant to do what he did.

He just made a tackle, scrambled to his feet, had a look out wide to the ball, looked ahead to where he needed to be, looked wide again, strides to get there, stamps on Ibra's head and he then actually makes the interception.

It is quite clear he was deliberately trying to make ground to cut the cross out....Which he actually did. His striding action makes no deviation to make contact with the head.

And he said he didn't mean to do it.

How anyone can take all that and say "He did it deliberately' is beyond me. And if he genuinely didn't and it was an accident then he gets another two match ban for defending himself.

I think it's a joke. And that scouse bell-end Carragher saying it's a disgrace. How does he know if it was intentional or not. He's guessing. And saying that Mings is a liar.

Ibra's is nailed on. And by his comments admits it was deliberate. And it was an un-natural deliberate action. Clearly. Mings natural running stride does not deviate so, for me, is not an un-natural action. Ibra's head is in the way of his running stride.

Mings may well have known this. And used it to his advantage to stamp on him. Only MIngs knows. But there simply is not the evidence to counter his actions or his comments and say it was deliberate. IMO.

Robson 5:08 Thu Mar 9
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Are you sensing any remorse in Zlatan's admission goose? No, me neither.

goose 5:02 Thu Mar 9
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Robson 4:12 Thu Mar 9
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thats a very odd way of looking at it.

i'd say the complete opposite.

Any Old Iron 4:48 Thu Mar 9
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I think it is very hard to say that Mings meant to do that. The only thing you could say was that perhaps he could have done more to avoid it.
However, as they decided that it was deliberate, I think a 5 game ban for a stamp on a head is pathetic. Should be 10.

Grumpster 4:17 Thu Mar 9
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Nothing to do with big team bias this, the stamp was fucking diabolical and could have caused serious damage.

He should be thankful that Zlatan took it like a man and didn't roll around like a little girl, as he did when elbowed.

Football boot stamped hard on the head or an elbow?

Elbow all day long for me thanks very much.

Robson 4:12 Thu Mar 9
Re: Mings gets 5. Zlatan only 3.!

Interesting one this, in terms of their attitudes anyway.

I saw Ibrahimovic interviewed after the match. Said something like "What happens in the game stays in the game", he knew full well the stamp was intentional, he implied the elbow was intentional and that he had enjoyed scrapping with Mings all afternoon. For a moment I thought yeah fair enough, then though actually you're a thug and this behaviour isn't acceptable. His admission of guilt is far more about not caring and thinking what he did is ok, than "doing the right thing". We shouldn't be praising his attitude at all.

Mings on the other hand has denied intention. Fair enough a stamp to the head is worse than an elbow, but his denial is at least an acknowledgement that what he's done is unacceptable and he is desperate to distance himself from those actions. No-one really believes him but as long as he denies it there is some doubt.

In my mind, on the basis that the stamp is twice as bad as the elbow, but there is some doubt about the stamp, which is why that gets 5 rather than 6.

Northern Sold 3:33 Thu Mar 9
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Anyone that has played football at any sort of level would know what Mings done to Zlat he meant it... same as Julian on Spencer... no question at all

Sven Roeder 3:20 Thu Mar 9
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I thought it was flagged up that Mings offence was bad enough that he was going to get more than 3 matches though I understand they appealed as well which usually adds a match if it's unsuccessful
I think there is an argument that Ibrahimovic could have got more as well.
Premeditated attack of an elbow to the head which could cause very serious damage. 3 games is the bare minimum for the lanky cunt.

JonWHUFC 3:04 Thu Mar 9
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I have said on another post that they both meant it then both denied they had done anything intentionally. It is so obvious but here is my view if you are interested. Ibra has his head stamped on which is the instigation of the aggression here and to be honest fair play to him for taking umbrage and retaliating. The elbow was blatant but he had been provoked. If the ref had spotted either (and don't get me started) both were straight red offences. Man U did not appeal so Ibra gets 3 matches which is fair. Bournemouth appealed which runs the risk. No big club bias just the rules being applied. If Man U had appealed and Ibra had got four to Mings five then yes but that is not the case.

jack flash 9:59 Thu Mar 9
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I have no doubt whatsoever that there is big club bias & especially where manu are concerned

However, both players deserved their bans & Mings got an extra couple of games for his ridiculous appeal

In this case, I don't think there was any bias

Nobody wants to see this type of thuggery & to be honest, Leicester players have been getting away with a lot in the last few seasons when I've seen them play

No sympathy from me!

wansteadman 9:44 Thu Mar 9
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I thought at the time that when mings jumped he caught Rooney and that caused him to land awkwardly

Trevor B 9:43 Thu Mar 9
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Odd that oa, fans defending their own player?

ornchurch ammer 9:34 Thu Mar 9
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Did Dicks stamp on Spencer's head deliberately?

All I remember at the time was West Ham supporters saying it was unintentional and how could it be proven that he meant it?

How times have changed.

Oh dear 9:25 Thu Mar 9
Re: Mings gets 5. Zlatan only 3.!

Only 5 games, he should consider himself very lucky.

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